In her interview on Nicolette’s Fourth PhD podcast episode, Suzanne offers insights that go beyond the conventional risk factors cited by the government and scientists for disproportionate rates of diabetes and chronic disease in BIPOC communities. She provides a nuanced perspective on the impact of colonization, control, complex PTSD, voicelessness, intergenerational trauma, brain fog, monoculture, the credentials barrier, and multinational corporations' control over food security and inputs for growing. Suzanne debunks commonly held beliefs about poverty and the "thrifty gene" and explores the opportunities for creating a better future through re-learning, knowledge-sharing, consulting with those who hold cultural and ceremonial knowledge, and taking care of marginalized people. She emphasizes the importance of sharing stories and seeing to address the challenges faced by Indigenous communities.